Tuesday, August 3, 2010

Muslims who don't Condemn Apostates to Death Are Tiny Minority

It's important to point out that RT TV had me debate an Ahmadiyya Muslim. They are regarded as apostates in Pakistan and are brutally repressed there.

Orthodox Muslims consider both Ahmadi movements to be heretics and non-Muslims for a number of reasons, chief among them being the question of finality of prophethood,[79] since they believe members of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community do not regard the Islamic prophet Muhammad as the last prophet.[80] The Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement does not subscribe to this belief; its members, in fact, deny the prophethood of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad.[81] Ahmadis claim that this is a result of misinterpreting Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's statements referring to his coming “in the spirit of Muhammed”,[81][82] (similar to John the Baptist coming in the spirit and power of Elijah).[83][84]

Both Ahmadi movements are considered non-Muslims by the Pakistan government, and have this fact recorded on their travel documents. By contrast, Ahmadi citizens from Western countries and other moderate Muslim nations perform Hajj and Umra, as the Saudi government is not made aware that they are Ahmadis when they apply for a visa. A court decision has upheld the right of Ahmadiyyas to identify themselves as Muslims in India.[86]

Ahmadi Muslims believe Ghulam Ahmad to be the Mahdi and promised Messiah.

Bangladesh
In Bangladesh, fundamentalist Islamic groups have demanded that Ahmadiyyas be “officially” declared to be kafirs (infidels). Ahmadiyyas have become a persecuted group, targeted via protests and acts of violence.[72] According to Amnesty International, followers have been subject to “house arrest”, and several have been killed. In late 2003, several large violent marches, led by Moulana Moahmud Hossain Mumtazi, were directed to occupy an Ahmadiyya mosque. In 2004, all Ahmadiyya publications were banned.[73]
Indonesia

In 2008, many Muslims in Indonesia protested against the Ahmadiyya movement. With violence and large demonstrations, these religious conservatives put pressure on the government to monitor, and harass the Ahmadiyya community in Indonesia.[74][75] In June 2008, a law was passed to curtail “proselytizing” by Ahmadiyya members.[76] An Ahmadiyya mosque was burned.[77] Human rights groups objected to the restrictions on religious freedom.[78]
Public opinion in Indonesia is split in three ways on how Ahmadiyya should be treated: (a) some hold it should be banned outright on the basis that it is a heretical and deviant sect that is not listed as an officially recognised religion in Indonesia; (b) others hold that it should not be banned because of the freedom of religion article in the Constitution, but also should not be allowed to proselytise under the banner of "Islam" on the basis that this is misleading; (c) still others hold that it should be free to do and say as it pleases based on the Constitutional right to freedom of religion. (more here)

Posted by Pamela Geller on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 12:09 AM in SIOA "Leaving Islam" Bus Campaign | Permalink ShareThis

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